On The Way Out: discussing the novel and what brought it about

In this interview with Niall Delaney on Ocean FM’s North West Today programme (Thursday, 4 December, 2025), I talk about the long road to On The Way Out, my debut novel and winner of the Gerald Griffin Competition for First Adult Fiction 2025.

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We chat about what drew me back to college in recent years to study for a master’s in creative writing, and how that return to the classroom helped shift my writing from the structures of journalism to the more exploratory, unpredictable world of fiction.

Have a listen below.